Beer on Sunday: New alcohol laws on tap in Franklinton

By Jacob Brooks
The Daily News
Published/Last Modified on Friday, August 28, 2009 8:45 AM CDT


Alcohol could be sold in restaurants, including on Sundays, if a proposed ordinance becomes law at the next Franklinton Town Council meeting.

Town Alderman Brad Orman introduced the ordinance Tuesday night.

The proposed law would drastically change two areas of how alcohol is currently sold in the Fair City: 1) It would allow alcoholic beverages “containing low or high alcoholic content” to be sold on Sundays between noon and 10 p.m., and 2) It would allow restaurants to sell alcoholic drinks.

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Currently no restaurants in Franklinton are allowed to sell alcohol, and nowhere in Washington Parish is alcohol legal to sell on Sundays.

Alcohol is only sold at Franklinton grocery and convenience stores Monday through Saturday.

The proposed ordinance comes on the heels of an announcement that the new Bogue Chitto State Park could open in the next few months and an economic impact study of alcohol sales conducted by Southeastern Louisiana University.

“Combined, the two proposed changes to Franklinton’s regulations are estimated to increase sales revenues of Franklinton businesses by $463,696 (annually) and provide earnings of $160,258, which would support approximately 9.6 jobs,” according to the SLU study. “The increased sales revenue would lead to an increase in Franklinton’s sales tax collections of an estimated $12,612.”

Nearly all of the town aldermen seemed in favor of the ordinance when it was introduced Tuesday.

“Where we’re coming from is strictly income,” said Alderman Florence Manning.

And that income could be even greater than what was stated in the SLU study, which estimated 82,039 people will visit the new state park each year. Manning said she thinks the park will receive quite a bit more visitors than that.

New alcohol laws could also bring in new business, said Orman. Restaurants like Chili’s or Applebee’s may be willing to come to Franklinton if they can sell alcohol.

“They won’t come without that,” Orman said.

Alderman Richard Dillon was the lone dissenter at Tuesday’s meeting, voting “no” to introduce the ordinance.

After the meeting, he said new laws concerning alcohol should really come from the public before being decided by the board.

New Alcohol laws should “not just be pushed through by the council,” Dillon said.

Officials are also going to have to sit down and define exactly what is a “restaurant,” Dillon said.

One thing the aldermen said they don’t want is any bars popping up in Franklinton. They all seemed to agree on that.

Mayor Wayne Fleming said a public hearing on the alcohol ordinance is scheduled for Sept. 8 at 6:15 p.m. at Town Hall. The board may vote on the ordinance at a meeting following the public hearing.

 

Comments

    Hello McFly wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:57 AM:

    " By the way! I am a life long resident of Franklinton. I have been waiting impatiently my entire life for some form of recreational facility to be built here. Personally, I don't want to spend my weekend next to some lousy, belligerent drunk. I want it to be some where I can take my family and relax. I think we should ban alcohol in the state park. Go drink some where else! The fact that we are even discussing this is detestable. I am disappointed in our elected officials. Your bid for re-election should be interesting. "

    Hello McFLY wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:29 AM:

    " No Bars??? Have any of you council men and women been too Chili's, Olive Garden, Outback, Osaka, Applebee's, Wow Wingery, The Mellow Mushroom or any other chain restaurant you may frequent in Covington? They all have bars right in the middle of the establishment. People sit, drink and watch whatever sporting event may be playing on the big screen television. I'm sorry but you are adding to an already growing problem. There are more creative ways to generate revenue other than selling alcohol that could and would be supported by people visiting the new state park. "

    Reality Check wrote on Sep 4, 2009 4:52 PM:

    " Paul and Jim: Get back in touch with reality. You act as though serving alcohol with meals will automatically result in carnage and death instantly all over our highways. Keep your head in the sand and let the rest of us move our great city of Franklinton forward. My family has been here for generations and we all agree this is WAAAYYYY overdue! Thank you Mayor and Alderman for having the courage to act on this. We are tired of spending our disposable income on the weekends in other cities. "

    Cholly wrote on Sep 4, 2009 4:18 PM:

    " Ed, you must be a moron. The Town of Franklinton is where this is a concern. Not city hall or Bogalusa. You already have your laws for people to drink. Stay out of the Town of Franklinton with your way of thinking. "

    Cigarettes kill more than booze wrote on Sep 4, 2009 3:58 PM:

    " If they were to pass a law saying nobody can smoke in the city limits of Franklinton, Do you think people will quit smoking?? I don't think so. You can buy cigaretes inside the city limits too!!! That is the same as alcohol. People shouldn't be arguing over the sale of alcohol. People should be arguing over how to change our parish to provide more activities for kids, teen and adults to participate in. Something to give people something else to do other than drink. Sports leagues, basketball, volleyball, etc... Just a thought!! "

    I have a wrote on Sep 4, 2009 3:49 PM:

    " Paul dodds,
    I guess it would be bad if you had drunk drivers traveling both east and west huh. I guess as long as you travel west you will be traveling along with all the drunks leaving bogalusa. But if you drive east you will have to face them head on. LOL I don't mean to laugh, but some peoples thinking is crazy. do people really think that not selling alcohol INSIDE the city limits of Franklinton is going to stop drunk driving. People will drink no matter where alcohol is sold. "

    Edmond Chandler wrote on Sep 3, 2009 12:20 PM:

    " Hi Joe! It's called good journalism! WRITERS REPORT, Writers cause readers to THINK, THINKING causes positive CHANGE, Joe. DARE TO STIR THE POT, JOE .. BOGALUSA AND CITY HALL NEEDS YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS! I will keep on writing, Joe ... I will keep on challenging the status quo... AND, some good will come of it for Bogalusa! I LOVE MY BOGALUSA, JOE!!!! "

    Jim S. wrote on Sep 3, 2009 10:46 AM:

    " Total revenue for restrurants $463,696 more money being spread around in Franklinton .Tax base increase for city of Franklinton $12,612.
    9.6 new jobs in Franklinton.. Do these figures include new law enforcement officers and patrol cars? How about extra EMS people for accidents? Lets look at the total picture! A moderate drink ,will the restaurants employee's give breath analyzer test to see if they can serve you more alcohol before you drive? "

    Curious wrote on Sep 3, 2009 8:33 AM:

    " So, if one of these businesses has a booth in the fair grounds and the appropriate licenses to sell alcohol, does the ordinance give that business permission to sell alcohol at the fair? "

    paul dodds wrote on Sep 3, 2009 7:48 AM:

    " well sure having nice restaurants and a few new jobs is nice but is it worth the many lost lives. as someone who used to drink like a fish, i can atest that most drinkers will drive and once they get on that narrow hilly highway 10 they will kill innocent people but hey 6 jobs is surely worth numerous families torn from loved ones right. "

    Edmond Chandler wrote on Sep 2, 2009 2:18 PM:

    " Thanks, Joe... "Talked About Stories" ... I have done my" thing" since there are now 29 comments concerning this topic! KEEP EXPRESSING YOUR THOUGHTS HERE, JOE... THE MORE THE BETTER! This is a great forum for citizens to "SPEAK OUT" and be HEARD! Thank you, Daily News, for publishing these blogs. CITY HALL: Listen Up to what the people of Bogalusa have to say! LISTEN AND LEARN!
    ... Keep 'em coming! This is GREAT! "

    joe wrote on Sep 2, 2009 11:30 AM:

    " Edmond, take a break and stop clammering for attention. You're making a fool of yourself. People who drink alcohol are not Christians? Sounds like some folks need to stand up this Sunday at your church and do some confessing. "

    connie wrote on Sep 2, 2009 9:51 AM:

    " lets think people lets get the darn drunk drivers off the hwy no matter how they get it they do they drive our families die so drunk drivers on the hwy goes staight to jail no matter one sip or a case drinking and driving will happen if u see it call it in "

    AriesTaurus wrote on Sep 2, 2009 6:28 AM:

    " That's all Washington parish needs is a higher crime rate, an increase in accidents with injuries and fatalites on our streets and highways,an increase in domestic violence and abuse of children, an increase in accidents and fatalities on waterways, so on and so forth. These alone will bring more money into our parish through the court and insurance systems. There are people who drink responsibly, but look around, there are far too many drunks in this parish who abuse alcohol. Our children are forced to relocate due to most employment opportunites don't offer a living wage. Again,Ireferbacktothe"HAVE'SandHAVENOT'S". "

    Fay wrote on Sep 2, 2009 5:42 AM:

    " THIRTY FIVE YEARS ago when I worked at a store in Tangipahoa Parish near the Washington Parish line, I remember people driving over just to buy alcohol on Sundays. Franklinton needs to come out of the DARK AGES. "

    A.T. wrote on Sep 1, 2009 10:47 PM:

    " Go ahead and sell it, and collect the revenue. Those who want to buy alcohol on Sundays will buy it in other parishes if it is not sold here. "

    franklinton resident wrote on Sep 1, 2009 9:48 PM:

    " I just think it will be a big mistake... alcohol usually brings alot of trouble where ever it goes. FRanklinton is such a beautiful place with very little trouble caused from people over drinking and acting like fools. before you act on such a measure take a long look at bogalusa just down the street. look where they are at now. I know that it will bring in more business and more income for the town. but is it worth the problems that it may bring with it.. "

    Liz wrote on Sep 1, 2009 5:41 PM:

    " It seems, that you that say you are Christians,seem to veer away from Christianity. I am not a hyprocrite. I do not drink. I do not want people drinking and driving. This is the ultimate end. For those of you who want to drink, this is the perfect thing. Get it in Franklinton. I am like Ed. What comes next? Today the State Highway Patrol will watch more closely for drunk drivers, will one of you Christians be next to be picked up? What will your preacher say? Christ knew his limit. Humans don't. "

    Edmond Chandler wrote on Sep 1, 2009 1:06 PM:

    " WOW! We seem to have stirred up a really great discussion! Thank you, one and all! The comments run the entire spectrum ... from prohibition to "eat, drink and be merry" ... Thank God for America! ... where else could we express such strong opinions? "Let YOUR conscience be your guide" ... NOW, please speak out on the other issues that need to be addressed! Our Parish and our city needs you to SPEAK UP! WOW! "

    thought wrote on Sep 1, 2009 7:29 AM:

    " Everyone is searching for something in their life. God designed us with a homing beacon directed at him. People will go through life and always seek some sort of pleasure, either drinking, drugs, love, etc... But until they figure out that God is the only thing in this world that can give true happiness they will be stuck in worldly sin. The sin will always be in this world. So that means we have to pray and do what we can to turn these people onto the word of God and only he can save us. GOD REMOVES SIN!!! "

    Thought wrote on Sep 1, 2009 7:23 AM:

    " People always fight the wrong fight. It isn't about where alcohol is sold. If a person wants to drink alot or just an occasional drink. He or she will do it. Don't fight to not sell the alcohol. If people would put more effort into educating people about the affect of what alcohol does instead of where it is sold, things might change. We spend tens of thousands to jail a person and only 100's to educate them. Fight for education and community activities to give people other options. Fight to put God into peoples lives. "

    thought wrote on Sep 1, 2009 7:16 AM:

    " "ED"

    You sound like our government. Next, ban chocolate because it makes people overweight. Then guns they kill people. Then fast cars they kill people. Then what?? People have to make choices in life. Taking away those things don't change the people. ED have you ever had a drink of alcohol??? Jesus did, but within moderation. I am a STRONG CHRISTIAN!! I don't drink anymore but I have before. I won't put blinders on and act like it doesn't happen. People will buy it on sunday if they want it, either on saturday or SOMEWHERE ELSE. "

    Anti Hypocrite wrote on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM:

    " You cannot be a Christian if you drink alcohol? I think you have a real problem. It is mentioned numerous times that wine was the preferred drink. I am a true Christian and I know how to behave responsibly and make adult decisions. Once this ordinance is passed, I will happily have a drink or 2 with my meal.

    To say we need to put a casino in the parish because we allow alcohol consumption shows your ignorance and intolerance. "

    Cholly wrote on Aug 31, 2009 7:23 PM:

    " Ed, stay in Bogalusa and run for mayor. We do not need your type of thinking fand downgrading for the west side of the Parish. "

    Hate stupidity wrote on Aug 31, 2009 7:13 PM:

    " Edmond Chandler even Christ himself consumed alchohol so don't dare say someone who drinks shoould not call themselves Christians that just proves your ignorance sir! As for the topic at heart, well I think it like all political issues should be put to a vote of the people so that the majority can decide. "

    Jim S. wrote on Aug 31, 2009 5:40 PM:

    " The content of the title of this article is misleading . One could very well assume just beer of low alcohol content will be sold. However the article goes on to read HIGH alcohol content.I suppose that would mean whiskey also..

    Having said that, then leads to a liquior by the ounce debates at lounges. Someone several years ago tried to get a drive through daquiri shop in Franklinton. Does Franklinton need the money that badly? "

    oh brother wrote on Aug 31, 2009 5:08 PM:

    " Sounds like the TOWN is desperate, not really thinking.

    Sure, alcohol sales are high and a source of revenue. So tax it more in town.

    If the TOWN would be willing to count the number of deaths in the whole of Washington Parish due to alcohol and publish their findings publicly, I would be willing to consider a discussion about changing the current law in "just the town." Then I would ask for the number of persons from Washington Parish who were involved in alcohol related "incidents" (not just car crashes) and ask that those findings be published. "

    Edmond Chandler wrote on Aug 31, 2009 12:06 PM:

    " "One thing the aldermen said they don’t want is any bars popping up in Franklinton. They all seemed to agree on that"
    I am thankful for this! Bar Rooms, Drinking, Alcohol, Smoking, Drugs, ... Gambling, even cigarettes should be BANNED!

    Where do you draw the line... and HOLD THAT LINE!

    ... already too much compromise is prevalent! "

    Edmond Chandler wrote on Aug 31, 2009 11:49 AM:

    " ... NO ALCOHOL, especially on Sundays! Would you also perhaps like to see a CASINO built in the middle of Washington Parish? How about tearing down our churches and putting a bar room in each of their places????

    ... raise taxes on CIGARETTES HIGHER ... this would be a help to people who need to quit smoking themselves into the grave.

    ... I STAND OPPOSED TO ALCOHOL IN WASHINGTON PARISH! "

    Edmond Chandler wrote on Aug 31, 2009 11:32 AM:

    " " Many people in churches enjoy drinks from time to time."

    ... These are luke-warm uncommitted people... hardly Christians.... This is COMPROMISE! CHRISTIANS MUST STAND AGAINST DRINKING ALCOHOL!

    ... It is my opinion that people who drink alcohol, should not call themselves Christians! Where does it stop? Is DOPE alright, too? Is smoking alright, too?

    ... Christians are to be a "separated people" ...unto our Lord!

    ... Our Churches must stand against this ... We do NOT need this tainted money! "

    RB wrote on Aug 31, 2009 11:28 AM:

    " They're Bootlegging it anyway or they'll drive to ST. Tammy Parish and buy it! Why not sell it!

    No Brainer in Ga. "

    Memo wrote on Aug 30, 2009 11:42 AM:

    " Liz,
    Greed has nothing to do with this. Alcohol sales will bring money into Franklinton that is much needed. The town needs that money to operate on. This won’t cause more beer bottles by the river. Also, you can be a Christian and have a drink too. Many people in churches enjoy drinks from time to time.

    Edmond Paul Chandler,
    Franklinton isn’t building a tax base on alcohol sales. They would be helping some businesses to grow, which is what you suggested. Alcohol sales in restaurants is not going to increase the crime rate. You can buy "

    just a thought wrote on Aug 29, 2009 11:31 AM:

    " Liz Stokes,

    The trash could be cleaned up real easy on the river. You know how. Each person that shows up to float the river with an ice chest. The owner of the tubing place count how many cans they have in their ice chest. The owner tells them that for every can that doesn't come back will cost them $5 dollars per can. Also every can they bring back over what they took floating they will be rewarded $2 dollars. That would eliminate the problem. Owners need to enforce it. "

    Just a Thought wrote on Aug 29, 2009 11:24 AM:

    " I grew up drinking on the weekends. I knew better. But I was going to do it anyway. You know where I went??? bogalusa or Covington or New Orleans. I don't drink anymore. But I wont close my eyes to the fact that my child might grow up and drink a beer. For that reason. I would rather him not drive all the way to Bog or somewhere else to get it and then drive home maybe after drinking it. Kids will drink, no matter where you sale the beer. "

    Finally wrote on Aug 29, 2009 8:37 AM:

    " This is a great idea and long overdue. Franklinton will reap many benefits from this. By allowing it only in restraunts you have the best of both worlds. As adults, we should be allowed to make the personal decision to have a drink with a meal rather than spend our money in Bogalusa, Covington, or Amite. "

    Ms. T wrote on Aug 28, 2009 4:19 PM:

    " To Liz Stokes,
    What would allowing alcohol at a restaurant have to do with beer bottles and cans being thrown by the river? The kind of people who you are talking about doing this don't even typically go to these kinds of restaurants! It's this close-minded thinking that has Franklinton stuck in a time warp. We can't even get a Wal-Mart here but the businesses here want to close at 12 on Saturday and still close at 12 on Wednesday! This is why so many people of the younger generation pack up and move right after graduation! WAKE UP!!! "

    Ms. T wrote on Aug 28, 2009 4:05 PM:

    " I feel that if a person is an adult they should be able to make their own decisions about whether or not they want to have a drink with dinner. Franklinton has been backwards for as long as I can remember. People wanna drive down the road and go out to eat and have a drink but want to say no to it coming to Franklinton. It's past time for us to catch up with the rest of the world. When you have visitors in from out of town you have to drive to go to a nice restaurant. "

    OLD TIMER wrote on Aug 28, 2009 2:33 PM:

    " MS. LIZ-

    No disrespect intended, but please a "nice, clean, Christian town?" Are we talking about the same Washington Parish the board is. You better open your eyes, because those same folks that are singing in the choir on Sunday morning have been spotted out on Saturday night in the local bar rooms. Wake up, and the smell the beer. It will happen, because you all need the attraction for new businesses. "

    Edmond Paul Chandler wrote on Aug 28, 2009 2:01 PM:

    " ... This is a bad idea! We should not be building a tax/revenue base on alcohol (nor gambling)... SOUND BUSINESS is the way to grow our revenue base. Alcohol sales will only contribute to the already problem of growing crime. I hope our citizens will oppose this. Alcohol is just another drug, and should be regulated as other drugs. I am strongly opposed to this effort to sell alcohol on ANY DAYS! ... mnot only Sundays. "

    Liz Stokes wrote on Aug 28, 2009 11:09 AM:

    " With this ordinance you are asking for trouble. Just ask those that live on the river and what they put up with, the beer bottles and cans thrown everywhere. As a nice clean Christian town, why would we want to change that? For the money. Greed is a terrible thing. Especially when it makes people injury others when driving or fight at the drop of a hat. I hope you think on this long and hard. Mr. Dillon my hat is off to you. "

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